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JayDee


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Visitors come and join us!


Please introduce yourself and feel free to ask and contribute all you want.


My name is John Davey. I live in Sherburn-in-Elmet. I am admin for this forum so if you have any questions on the site per se then leave me a message on line here or by private message (see you membership data and these things are available there).


The quest of this forum and its accompanying website is to publish everything we can to educate people on the history and heritage of the region that was once the Kingdom of Elmet.


 



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Dear Guests !!


Please join in and become a forum member.  Stats show we are getting over 40 of you per day so the interest is there. What are your interests exactly - or generally. Let the world know and there may be some extra information available out there for you.


JayDee.


Welcome to Ted2 and Chris. Nice to see some of you aren't bashful.



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from Chris,


In the interest of furthering my quest for more info on Saxton parish where I also live I am introducing myself.


I just NEED more INFO on SCARTHINGWELL maps photos births, deaths, marrages, opinions qoutes anything prior to 1850 


For you folks who havent heared of Scarthingwell it is in the centre of Yorkshire England


Please help!


Chris



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I logged in yesterday and stopped here to say hello but guess my post didn't take.


Good work here John!  Keep it going!


Miss you!


Jo


 



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Nice to have you on board Jo.   You never know what the local yokels and more far-flung members may add to your Richard III resource.  Know for sure that you can add lots if anything crops up that has a 15th century ring to it!!!


For anyone who doesn't know, Jo is CEO of the Richard III Foundation based in the U.S.A  (For those with traditional views - the colonies)



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A warm welcome too to Lost Englishman who is researching the Ledgard family of Leeds-Bradford area. Anyone who can give info on same please join in on the 'People' section where I have thrown in a likely candidate in the form of Samual Ledgard of Pudsey.

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John,


Thanks, and while my heart is in Yorkshire, I don't know if I'd thank my forefathers for their journey here.


If any folk are interested in Good King Richard, our url is www.richard111.com and if you wish to participate in lively talks of the period, our forum is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/KingRichardIII


All are welcome.


 


Jo


 



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Hi there, new here!


I lived in Barwick and Scholes as a child and still have family there. I am mostly interested in Celtic history as I am a Bard in the Druid tradition and a mentor at a Druid college. I am also in the process of writing my first novel, scarey stuff!


I loved playing in the woods and fields of the area as a child and would like to know more of its history so thats why I'm here! :)


If anyone knows the Akeds or has any great historical titbits I'm all ears,


Brigantia.



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Brigantia


Sorry to be so slow getting back but I have been over in Brittany with other Celtic people. Welcome to our forum. Anything you have that can help with our research into the area will be more than welcome too! If you have any questions then just ask. Not everything will find an answer but every little piece of information helps.



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Hi my name is Elaine Connell and I live in Hebden Bridge. I became interested in the history of Elmet through reading Ted Hughes' collection of poems "Remains of Elmet." I don't know much about the kingdom only that it was the last Celtic area (according to Hughes) to fall to the Saxons. Is this true? I like the site which is fascinating.

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Yes I have very pronounced bardic interests. From reading Robert Graves's book "The White Goddess" several years ago (I lent my copy to a student who never returned it - grr) I think the training for bardship was very rigorous and involved much memorising of the literature of the tribe. The Celts were apparently very disturbed by the invention of writing, believing that it had the potential to destroy the memory.

I also have famous Irish connections though not bardic ones unfortunately. Daniel O' Connell the Great Liberator after whom O'Connell Street in Dublin is named was my great, great, great uncle. Some family tree research also shows that I am related to Scholar O'Connell who was reported to be the greatest brain in Ireland!

I moved from Manchester 30 years ago to live in the Calder Valley and found that I missed the Irish of Manchester very much when I moved here. I don't feel as if I detect any Celt in the local people of this valley. They seem like pure Norsemen to me.

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Elaine,


The subject of Druidism is a subject well worth a thread (or twenty!) all to itself. I have started a Bardic / Druidism thread in the General section. Let's take this discussion there shall we?



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Yes, he's the top banana, Kit. My grandfather dropped the O from his surname when he emigrated to England in the 1920's. I learned about our relationship to the great man when I was a kid but as I grew up I wondered if everyone with the surname claimed to be related to him.

9 years ago we visited the ancestral family home in Kerry where there were portraits on the wall which were the spitting image of my two brothers. There was also another rather spooky coincidence I bought a biography of O'Connell where I read that he called the first two of his 11 children Kate and Morgan. Those are the names of my own two children. Apparently Morgan is a family name of that branch of the O'Connell family.

Much to my family's surprise I became very interested in politics when I was a teenager. They always wondered where I got it from. In the same biography I read all about O'Connell's philosophy which was based very much on complete non violence but non compliance with unjust laws and civil disobedience. It was almost identical to my own political stance.

Will be very interested to look at the Druid thread.

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Hello everybody,

I am from Turin, Northwestern Italy. My interest in English history, born from a daddy's gift when I was child, brilliant Thomas Costain's book "The conquerors", is actually focused on anything about the area (Yorkshire and east Riding), especially before William took over your country.
I've been recently visiting (I mean two weeks ago), Tadcaster, Fulford, York and (of course) Stamfordbridge where, susprisingly, I've found nothing but a small monument to reckon such a main event in english history... By the way, I would like to have anything about the life of inhabitants of the area in danes' period such as sites, books or contacts to know how was your wonderful land back then.

Thanks in advance and forgive my simple english.



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Welcome Stranger!!!  We will help all we can.

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MY WIFE'S GRANDFATHER HAILS FROM SHERBURN-IN ELMET.HIS FAMILY NAME WAS HORSEPOOL.MY REAL INTEREST IN ELMET HOWEVER CENTRES AROUND ITS PLACE AS ONE OF THE KINGOMS OF THE OLD NORTH-YR HEN GOGLEDD.AS A WELSHMAN I HAVE ONLY RECENTLY DISCOVERED THE LINKS BETWEEN MY OWN COUNTRY AND THE ANCIENT LANDS OF THE NORTH.I AM VERY IMPRESSED BY YOUR WEBSITE.KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK

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Gllyndwr,


Welcome. I will see if we can find anything about Mr. Horsepool for you. Wales, or north Wales at least, was one of the 13 Kingdoms of the North and so the connection is very strong indeed.


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Hello!


          I live in South Elmsall which is not too far from Pontefract. West Yorkshire. I have always had an interest in history, and my interest in Druidism and Pagan religions has led to my interest in Ancient History, particularly Celtic history. My reading around the subject is limited and any advice on reading material would be appreciated.


 


 


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Geillis,


Good to hear from you.  Finding works on Druidism is a bit of a minefield. Most are fairytale stuff. But there are some good books out there on Celtic history. One you could make a start with, if you haven't already got it, is Celtic Civilization by J. Markale. ISBN 0-86033-045-1.


I'll see if I can dig a few more out for you but my collection is 'between houses' at the moment.


JayDee



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hey guys how are you? great site about a great part of gods country! originally hailling from clifford/bramham i now reside in australia and of course left my home knowing TOO LITTLE of its amazing history that was at my door step!! of course i knew of such history but too young and busy to look into or understand its worth i guess! hope you can head me in the right direction as now i have children and want them to know and understand the colourfull(bloody) history of home! many of my family are still in clifford, bramham, tadcaster, york and i will be visitting every year so it will be great to see where history made its mark on the green hills and fields of home! thanks and see ya soon! 

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Roopiepooh,


The villages and towns you list encircle the battlefield of Towton, as well as having great histories themselves.


If you haven't tried the Tour of Elmet page yet please do. There is quite a lot on there.


Next time you are over please get in touch - a trip across the battlefield can be arranged, or what you will.


JayDee



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thank you jaydee, i will most certainly look over the tour and as much as i can on the history! we will be over sometime spring to summer this year and would most definately take you up on the offer of a trip across the battle field and maybe pick your knowledge aswell! keep well and look forward to meeting!...steve.

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For those who are interested in books on Druidry that are not all fairytales I have compiled a list.


Living Druidry by Emma Restall Orr (and anything else by Emma)


Fire in The Head by Tom Cowan (more shamanistic)


A Brief History of The Druids by Peter Berrisford Ellis


The Druids by Jean Markale


Kindling the Celtic Spirit by Mara Freeman ( more Celtic than Druid)


The Mist Filled Path by Frank MacEowen


Anything By Phillip Carr Gomm


the Encyclopedia of Celtic Wisdom by John and Caitlin Matthews


 


Will that do for starters?!


 



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Brigantia,


I have the one by P.B. Ellis. Excellent work!


I wonder if having a main-site section on recommended books, covering any and all site-related subjects might be a good idea?


Worth a thought.


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Good idea!

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I'll get on to setting up a 'Book Page' this week.

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Hi, I'm Marcus and I'm a 19 year old lad who grew up in Swillington. I've been in Australia for a few years now, but I'm a patriotic Yorkshireman and I reckon I'll be back at some point. probably when I finish university here as I'm halfway through a sports science degree. My Grandad was Scottish and I've always felt a very close affinity to that country, its people and its culture. I was previously aware of Scottish raids on our fine county in centuries gone but until I discovered this site I had no idea that we share some history and had no idea of our links with Wales. I'd also not got a clue just how significant Elmet has been in history...its a crying shame that such rich heritage and culture is not being passed down the generations. Hopefully the Elmet heritage centre which has been mentioned does come to be a reality.


My main interests then involve Swillingtons history, how Elmet came to be, it's culture (particularly native, Celtic and Scandenavian) and if there could be any claim for it or Yorkshire as a whole to become a self entity in its own right. Watching the Commenwealth games I see that the Isle of Man, Jersey, Guernsey and other such places are recognised so why not Elmet or Yorkshire? I've always felt we were a race of our own, with a distinct and real culture and what I've seen on this website has only strengthened that.


Anyway, congratulations on such a comprehensive and accessible resource. It's fantastic for a young fella like me to be able to discover where I've come from and hopefully learn more about myself in the process. It can be hard for us to find things out as we get daunted by libraries and such like and we've pretty much grown up with the internet. Yorkshire is without a doubt a truly amazing place and Elmet seems to be at the very heart of its heritage. So thank you, thank you, thank you for creating and maintaining this website....I hope that it goes from strength to strength.


If anyone reading this feels that they are able to give me additional information or point me in the direction of some I would grately appreciate it! Cheers!



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Marcus,


Welcome and thanks for the praise! The region is awash with history and heritage and tends to be totally overlooked by promoters of British folk.  Your comment on Scottish raids is an opening to a complete chapter in the annals of Elmet and the north. Tadcaster suffered greatly in such a raid. But the 'Scottish' is another anomaly in history as taught today because the present borders of Scotland are really an English invention and only a couple of centuries old. Scotland per se aught really to be the area above the Clyde and the Forth - though many would narrow it down much more than that.


The Reivers of the 17th century are fascinating borderers and their tales echo the old Celtic North of a thousand years before.


How can we help?


John



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Hello. The name is Alan Pendle, based near Ilkley / Otley.  Great site but having lots of trouble posting on this forum. This is my third try and so far it works - but three attempts before it said okay , but nothing went on.


Cheers


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Alan.


Welcome. Must say I'm having problems here too, and over 1000 visits are recorded on this forum every month. I wonder how many try to join in and don't make it. Must look for a better supplier.



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