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Anyone out there have any information at all on Scarthingwell? It is next door to Barkston Ash just two miles north of Sherburn-in-Elmet. Finds seem to date it back to at least the 12th century but Admiral Lord Hawke of Towton enparked the area in the 1700's and evidence of what was there previously is scarce. We have names of families of the area but little information on them so far and several masons marks in 18th century buildings point to re-use of stone from earlier constructions. Any information on the pre-1700's would be most appreciated.

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I am also very interested in Scarthingwell and the Hall


Brian Hammond was born at Saxton in Elmet in 1551 married Elizabeth Stapylton daughter of Sir Robert Stapylton and Elizabeth Mallory in 1567 at Saxton in Elmet


 and then married Sarah Cressy of Birkin in 1591 as Esq of Scarthingwell


 Elizabeth Hammond/Staplton of Scarthingwell Married Thomas Anlaby in 1601 and Died also on April 11th 1601 at Wighill Yorkshire. 


On Feb 6th 1615 Francis son of Bryan Hammond of Scarthingwell married Mary of Yeadon


Dissenters from Church October 4th 1683 Wakfield Sessions, Saxton cum Scarthingwell Joan wife of Willm Hammond Esq


It appears that Hammonds had the Hall for over a hundred years but did they build the hall?


Lord Hawke also appears to have followed the Hammonds in the 1700s


Does any one know of any pictures or paintings of the Hall or surrounding area?


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Chris,


Scarthingwell is typical of the confusion that we find when researching particular places. There is a hamlet called Scarthingwell of course, but it is classed as Saxton - Scarthingwell leading to some records being under 'Saxton'. Then again with the Lodge, or Presbytery as it has been called for the best part of two centuries, it is physically as near to being part of Barkston Ash as any building can be.


Squabbles between the lord of the manor of Barkston and the then king had parts of it transfered to the ownership of others and that's when the problems begin. Fun isn't it!


York has just announced that it is making its historical records more accessible I heard yesterday. Didn't get any details as to how and where but that should be worth chasing as their may be church records there that could shed some light.


We have a 'Mr. Hammond' at Scarthingwell in the 38th year of Henry VIII's reign. Not very enlightening.


Hawke died in 1781, but I don't have anything on his date of purchase of Scarthingwell.


Coke's Institutes (see Wheater's History of Sherburn & Cawood) mentions a William Ryvell of Scarthingwell in 1391 as owning land in Cawood and still doing so in 1406. An Alexander Revill and his son Robert gifted 40 acres of land 'in the territory of Saxton' in the first year of the reign of Edward I (1272). Looks like the family were around for a while. A name to add to the research list.


William Hungate held land in Saxton, Scarthingwell and Woodhouse in 1455. Saxton church was the site of the burial of William Prest Esq. late of Scarthingwell Hall. Died July 18th 1836 aged 65, a 'zealous and active magistrate and deputy lieutenant of this county'.


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Don't know if you have this info on the Hammonds.


I have the Archbishop of York demising the manor of Sherburn to Anthony Hammond of Scarthingwell for a term of 30 years at £25 rent per annum in  1539.


Seems The Young family owned Scarthingwell until 12 July 1543 when William Hammond bought it for 300 marks from Baldwin Young. Strangely that seems to conflict with the manor of Sherburn record. The London Gazette, August 6th 1713 tells how the family have gone bust and their properties are to be sold off.


George Hammond died in December 1756 and left the scraps of his estate to one of the Gascoignes. No info on how much of the estate was remaining or who bought the rest in the 1713 sales.


Doesn't look likely that they built the hall. I always thought that Hawke had it built and the grounds enparked. But I can't remember where that idea came from.


Check out W. Wheater's History of Sherburn and Cawood. There are several pages on the Hammonds. That's where the above came from. I'll leave it to you to record the rest of the info.   Be nice if you can add it to our main website some time.   Think there is a copy in Sherburn library reference section.


JayDee.



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If Lord Hawke (re the sailor) died in 1781 and this son Bolden lived at Towton Hall which Lord Hawke did John Daverport form a lake and build a bridge over it for?


In Sammuel Buck's Yorkshire Sketchbook the drawing must be before 1779 which shows what to me looks a much older hall that the 20 century photo's, would this not have been Hammonds as the farm now the golf course was built by Lord Hawke  as mentioned in the survey of agriculter 1793?


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"In Sammuel Buck's Yorkshire Sketchbook the drawing must be before 1779 which shows what to me looks a much older hall that the 20 century photo's, would this not have been Hammonds as the farm now the golf course was built by Lord Hawke  as mentioned in the survey of agriculter 1793?"


The answer is quite simple - don't know.


But the Hammonds were there for nigh on two centuries. To have to sell up holdings all over the place they must have had the money to have obtained them in the first place. Could it be there was a hall built by the Hammonds, which fell into near ruin when they went into poverty, and it was rebuilt, greatly altered, by Hawke or his son after they bought the site? It's one possibilty but there is a lot of clarifying needs to be done.


The 1800's could have seen major works done which gave us the photo version. So it could be Hammond + Hawke or Hawke + Hawke Junior. Yes? The ball is in your court!


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Hi,

Came across website today. Scarthingwell came into Hawke family property through 1st Lord's wife, Catherine Brooke (c.1720-1756), a wealthy heiress whose mother was Mary Catherine Hammond (married to Walter Brooke c.1719).

1779/Aug- Lord Hawke gave his son Martin 11,000 pds to pay for improvements to farm & house at Scarthingwell (Source: Admiral Hawke).

The Hawke Brooke marriage was arranged by the 1st Lord's maternal Uncle Martin Bladen (1680-1746), because they were already related. Martins' sister Frances had married William Hammond of Scarthingwell (probably marriage late 1690s to early 1700). Catherine's relationship with William Hammond, I think was niece 7 uncle. I have a note also that in early 1710s the Bladen family were anxious for Frances (Bladen) Hammond for all the strife / grief that she was going through.

OK this is what I'm after => in your above notes "dissenter" 1683 William Hammond:

I have a Hammond branch in Maryland, USA who fit Mary Catherine Hammond, daughter of Col Thomas Hammond, younger brother of William Hammond. All these Hammonds were of qualer origins.



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These days Scarthingwell is home to a golf course, a nursing home, Second Hand Rose and Scarthingwell Replicas.

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